[federalCase]Moving in Quebec just after landing in other provinces?

[Bill]

Hi there,

Applied as the federal immigrant, could I land in provinces except
Quebec and move in Quebec soon(nextday or within a week)?
I understand that I can settle in everywhere I want as the federal
immigrant including Quebec.
However I heard that I had to solve some issues to get health
insurances and take French classes for new immigrants because I do not
have CSQ.

Here is the question:
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1. If I have the lease agreement or something like that I can show the
place to live more than a year, CSQ is replaceable(practically) with
that contract?
2. As a PR in federal skilled worker class, is it perfectly legal to
live in Quebec just after landing in other provinces?
3. At the port of entry I have no choice but apply for PR card with the
address not in Quebec because I don't have CSQ with me. Even if I
directly move in Quebec, I think the address on PR card won't be able
to be modified before I get a PR card via mail. Maybe I can try to
change the address through internet services from CIC's website,
however I should not do this because this is my first PR card. And the
address on the first PR card shouldn't be the one in Quebec, not with
CSQ. Is this correct?
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If 1 and 2 is YES, why doesn't the officer at the port of entry admit
to land directly in Quebec for federal immigrants?

Thanks for your time.

[Andrew Miller]

After landing anywhere in Canada except Quebec you may move to Quebec the
very same day. But you can't land in Quebec without CSQ, unless your travel
arrangements force you to do so and you have proof (ticket) of continuing
travel after landing to your destination outside Quebec.
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Andrew P. Miller
Authorized Immigration Consultant

Registered member of CSIC - ID# M041188
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: ***@REMOVEcanada.com
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Post by Bill
Hi there,
Applied as the federal immigrant, could I land in provinces except
Quebec and move in Quebec soon(nextday or within a week)?
I understand that I can settle in everywhere I want as the federal
immigrant including Quebec.
However I heard that I had to solve some issues to get health
insurances and take French classes for new immigrants because I do not
have CSQ.
================================
1. If I have the lease agreement or something like that I can show the
place to live more than a year, CSQ is replaceable(practically) with
that contract?
2. As a PR in federal skilled worker class, is it perfectly legal to
live in Quebec just after landing in other provinces?
3. At the port of entry I have no choice but apply for PR card with the
address not in Quebec because I don't have CSQ with me. Even if I
directly move in Quebec, I think the address on PR card won't be able
to be modified before I get a PR card via mail. Maybe I can try to
change the address through internet services from CIC's website,
however I should not do this because this is my first PR card. And the
address on the first PR card shouldn't be the one in Quebec, not with
CSQ. Is this correct?
================================
If 1 and 2 is YES, why doesn't the officer at the port of entry admit
to land directly in Quebec for federal immigrants?
Thanks for your time.

[Bill]

Thank you so much, Mr. Miller.
That means, do I have the right to take programs or benefits sponsored
not only by Quebec province but also by the federal government?
Have a good day~!

[Andrew Miller]

As a Permanent Resident you have the right to all federal benefits available
to all Canadians.

But why are you interested in benefits? Don't you want to work and earn
income?
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Andrew P. Miller
Authorized Immigration Consultant

Registered member of CSIC - ID# M041188
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: ***@REMOVEcanada.com
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Post by Bill
Thank you so much, Mr. Miller.
That means, do I have the right to take programs or benefits sponsored
not only by Quebec province but also by the federal government?
Have a good day~!

[Bill]

I just mean the general meaning of 'benefit' like the right of a
permanent resident or a Canadian citizen. In my point of view, the
government sponsored language program for new immigrants such as LINC
and COFI is one of the most important benefits.
Thanks.

[Ashley Watson]

Post by Bill
Thank you so much, Mr. Miller.
That means, do I have the right to take programs or benefits sponsored
not only by Quebec province but also by the federal government?
Have a good day~!

Hello

If you have moved to Quebec from another province after landing elsewhere
you will have to wait 3 months from the time you make you application in
order to receive healthcare. As for French language lessons you may or may
not be accepted. If you are you will be put at the back of the line and
people with CSQ's will take preference. There is already a long waiting
list for people with CSQ's appox 6 months in the Montreal area.

As for education, if you don't have a CSQ you will have to pay the same
fee's as any other out of province student, not as expensive as an overseas
student but not as cheap as a resident of Quebec. You have to show that
have a CSQ in order to pay Quebec resident fees.

You will not be elligible for the majorty of funds for programs sponsered by
Emploi Quebec or be able to access Aide Sociale. If you have acculuated
enough working hours then you can of course access Employment Insurance,
but if you have just landed then you will not be elligible.

Although you can live in Quebec without a CSQ it will limit you particulary
if you wish to take advantage of goverment programmes.

Ashley Watson

[Bill]

Thanks for your kind reply.

Post by Ashley Watson
As for education, if you don't have a CSQ you will have to pay the same
fee's as any other out of province student, not as expensive as an overseas
student but not as cheap as a resident of Quebec. You have to show that
have a CSQ in order to pay Quebec resident fees.

Even after I live and work in Quebec 3months or more than a year,
should I pay for the out of province tuition fee? And is this the same
for Canadian citizens from other provinces?

[o***@yahoo.co.uk]

CSQ - or not - all immigrants to Quebec must wait 3 months before
receiving healthcare. Residents with temporary status who subsequently
convert to PR without CSQ will have to go to the back of the line, but
if you have a CSQ AND have 3+ months already you are immediately
elligible for goverment healthcare provisions.

When i took french classes last year, there was no waiting line
(certainly not at levels 2 and 3). Level 1 classes tend to be fuller
and a lot of people give up after that. If you are past basic basic
french, you might go straight into level 2 classes anyway.

Post by Bill
Thanks for your kind reply.

Post by Ashley Watson
As for education, if you don't have a CSQ you will have to pay the same
fee's as any other out of province student, not as expensive as an overseas
student but not as cheap as a resident of Quebec. You have to show that
have a CSQ in order to pay Quebec resident fees.

Even after I live and work in Quebec 3months or more than a year,
should I pay for the out of province tuition fee? And is this the same
for Canadian citizens from other provinces?

[Bill]

I appreciate your information about French classes.
Moving to Quebec after studying basic French(actually I am trying to do
now) by myself seems to be the best scenario, though it would be tough
enough.
Have a nice weekend.

[o***@yahoo.co.uk]

the great thing about the classes in QC is that they are 'immersion'
classes. I was reading/listening/talking much quicker than i could
ever imagine. You can't do that in a french course with english
tutoring, because you can always slip back to english. It's a headache
sometimes, particularly after a long day at work, and it doesn't do to
be shy if you want to learn quicker, but well worth the effort.